Tuesday, June 18, 2013

Video, Rafale dogfighting F-22

This is the long awaited video showing a Rafale taking on an F-22 during one of the doghfights between the 2 machines during ATLC 2009

The interresting thing in that engagement is that there are only 2 high G turns at the begining (400-500 kts / 9G+). Then, everything is about being able to manoeuver at very low speed... down to 80 knots in the Rafale case which is the very edge of its flight envelope.

Also note how the TV camera of the OSF (on the left side of the nose) is moving up and down to track the F-22.

The F-22 is big but still very hard to outmanoeuver thanks to its TVC as shown in that impressive video.

As stated at the begining of the video, this footage is not a demonstration of any superiority of the Rafale over the F-22 in close air combat but merely a confirmation that both fighters match each other closely in that particular area. In fact, most engagements reported at the time were draws with 1 gun kill credited to the Raptor. Now we know that the Rafale pilots also managed to get at least 1 fair and square victory, which is pretty cool :) . Also, videos showing the raptor during actual simulated air combats are still very rare, especialy that long. For that reason I think it is certainly a worthy document whatever the outcome is.

higher resolution here


  1. Superbe séquence qui fait bien ressortir à la fois l'effort physique sur le pilote induit par les performances de ces machines et la difficulté d'avoir une solution de tir canon...
    Avec la conduite de tir canon air-air CCLT le jeu consiste à aligner le spaghetti se déformant que l'on voit apparaître de temps à autres avec la position de la cible dans le viseur, pas évident du tout!
    Il serait intéressant de savoir si le F22 ne disposerait pas de quelque chose de plus évolué, type Intégration Pilotage et Conduite de Tir...

  2. Effectivement, magnifique vidéo. Je ne pensais pas qu'il serait possible de voir sur Youtube une vidéo mettant en scène ces deux avions aussi 'peu' de temps après les évènements. Le timing de publication de cette vidéo est d'ailleurs intéressant...
    C'est hallucinant comment on sent le pilote à la limite.

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